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- iroh Mainline-DHT content discovery (iroh-content-discovery) Storage★ qualifiesanonymousno cardR
- dumbpipe / pigeons / iroh-ssh (as storage) Storagefails: quotaemail?card?R
iroh Mainline-DHT content discovery (iroh-content-discovery) Storage
★ qualifiesanonymousno cardR
| Free tier | No quota, no storage. Pure discovery: publishes BLAKE3->provider mappings onto the public BitTorrent Mainline DHT. unit unlimited; metered on stored-bytes |
|---|---|
| Price | none stated |
| Per-object cap | not stated |
| Retention | not stated |
| Egress | UDP DHT traffic only, kilobytes. Mainline lookups measured at 37 ms in n0's own example. |
| Identity | anonymous anonymous |
| Binding | none no constraint in the record binds at this scale; the record carries no limit of a kind the vocabulary names |
| Interface | unknown n0-mainline crate; iroh-mainline-address-lookup (pkarr/BEP 44 records); iroh_mainline_content_discovery (query_dht, query_iroh). |
| Tooling | Publishes a signed endpoint record (endpoint id + UDP socket + timestamp) to a tiny UDP address-index service, then announce_peer for SHA-1(BLAKE3 hash). Discovery returns candidate EndpointIds which are then dialled with normal iroh hole punching. |
| Composes with | Removes the last central dependency: no DNS, no pkarr relay, no account. Requires at least one reachable address-index service, found by rendezvous hash or a curated BEP 44 record. |
| Reliability | Experimental repo (12 stars, last push 2026-10-16). SHA-1 is used only as a keyspace key, so a malicious DHT answer can waste time but cannot corrupt data — verification is against the BLAKE3 root. |
| Notes | No quota, no storage. Pure discovery: publishes BLAKE3->provider mappings onto the public BitTorrent Mainline DHT. |
| Evidence rung | reported One page read moves it to documented. |
| Checked | 2026-10-21 (inherited); stale on 2026-11-04 |
Evidence (4)
| date | source | what it proved |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-10-21 | www.iroh.computer/blog/iroh-global-content-discovery | announce/discovery workflow, udp-addr-index rationale, 37 ms lookup, 'mainline does not provide any privacy' |
| 2026-10-16 | github.com/n0-computer/iroh-content-discovery | repo alive, pushed 2026-10-16 |
| 2026-10-21 | docs.iroh.computer/connecting/dht-address-lookup | DHT publishes the same signed records as DNS, different storage |
| 2026-10-21 | github.com/n0-computer/n0-mainline | iroh-flavoured fork of a Mainline DHT implementation |
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dumbpipe / pigeons / iroh-ssh (as storage) Storage
fails: quotaemail?card?R
| Free tier | Tunnel products, not stores. dumbpipe's own tagline is 'Unix pipes between devices'; pigeons is SSH-over-iroh; iroh-ssh is 'SSH to any machine without ip'. They pass bytes and keep none — us unit none; metered on none |
|---|---|
| Price | none stated |
| Per-object cap | not recorded |
| Retention | not recorded |
| Egress | not recorded |
| Identity | email (placeholder) not published |
| Binding | none no constraint of a named kind was recorded; the verdict rests on the quota sentence rather than on a named limit |
| Interface | unknown |
| Tooling | not recorded |
| Composes with | not recorded |
| Reliability | Tunnel products, not stores. dumbpipe's own tagline is 'Unix pipes between devices'; pigeons is SSH-over-iroh; iroh-ssh is 'SSH to any machine without ip'. They pass bytes and keep none — us |
| Notes | Tunnel products, not stores. dumbpipe's own tagline is 'Unix pipes between devices'; pigeons is SSH-over-iroh; iroh-ssh is 'SSH to any machine without ip'. They pass bytes and keep none — us |
| Evidence rung | reported |
| Checked | 2026-10-21 (inherited); stale on 2026-11-04 |
Evidence (2)
| date | source | what it proved |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-10-21 | github.com/n0-computer/pigeons | Tunnel products, not stores. dumbpipe's own tagline is 'Unix pipes between devices' pigeons is SSH-over-iroh; iroh-ssh is 'SSH to any machine without ip'. They pass bytes and keep none — us |
| 2026-10-21 | github.com/n0-computer/dumbpipe | cited as the basis of the rejection: Tunnel products, not stores. dumbpipe's own tagline is 'Unix pipes between devices'; pigeons is SSH-over-iroh; iroh-ssh is 'SSH to any machine without ip'. They pass bytes and keep none — us |
More fields (1)
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"first_recorded": "2026-10-21"
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