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GNU Savannah download area (download.savannah.gnu.org / .nongnu.org) Storagecaveatemail?card?R
gnu ftp / ftp.gnu.org (mirroring side) Storagefails: quotaemail?card?R

GNU Savannah download area (download.savannah.gnu.org / .nongnu.org) Storage

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savannah.gnu.org · paas · storage/gnu-savannah-download-area · JSON · compare

Free tier	No published byte quota found on any Savannah page - the hosting-requirements doc speaks only in terms of purpose ('The space given to you on this server is given for the expressed purpose of advancing free software') and permanence ('Our intent is to provide a permanent home for all versions of your project'), never a number. Disk was moved to Ceph/NFS precisely to remove the old ceiling (savannah-hackers-public, 2019-04: 'This increases the disk space and moves onto the new cephs storage'). unit mixed; metered on stored-bytes
Price	none stated
Per-object cap	not stated
Retention	No published byte quota found on any Savannah page - the hosting-requirements doc speaks only in terms of purpose ('The space given to you on this server is given for the expressed purpose of advancing free software') and permanence ('Our intent is to provide a permanent home for all versions of your project'), never a number
Egress	Free and mirrored: `download.savannah.{gnu,nongnu}.org` redirect to a world-wide mirror ring. Verified live: a GET 302s to a national mirror (fosszone.csd.auth.gr) which serves 200 with real bytes. No metering, no billing.
Identity	email (placeholder) not published
Binding	none no constraint in the record binds at this scale; the record carries no limit of a kind the vocabulary names
Interface	scp, rsync, ssh scp
Tooling	SSH public-key auth only. Upload with `scp -O <file> <file>.sig [address removed]:/releases/GROUP_NAME/` (the `-O` is mandatory - see limits) or `rsync -tv`. Removal via restricted SSH commands `ssh host rm <path>` / `rmdir`. Also the `gnupload` script from Gnulib's build-aux. Read side is plain anonymous HTTP from the mirror ring.
Composes with	One Savannah group per project, unlimited files per group, unlimited versions retained forever. Accounts are free; the gate is that a human evaluates the package ('Evaluate and approve non-gnu packages submitted for hosting'), so cardinality is bounded by reviewer throughput, not by quota. For GNU packages ftp.gnu.org/alpha.gnu.org is a second surface with an automated signed-upload path.
Reliability	Two real breakages. First, SFTP-off is a live trap for any modern client - a naive `scp` on OpenSSH 9+ silently fails. Second, the mirror ring is uneven: the same lzip tarball (123,850 bytes) took 4.6 s once and timed out at 21 s on the redirect target (ftp.cc.uoc.gr) another time, so per-mirror health varies and single-stream fetch is not trustworthy. Site pages also intermittently serve a Kant-quoting anti-scraper page instead of content - the register/ and requirements.php URLs both did this via the reader while the Wayback copy of the same page was clean.
Notes	No published byte quota found on any Savannah page - the hosting-requirements doc speaks only in terms of purpose ('The space given to you on this server is given for the expressed purpose of advancing free software') and permanence ('Our intent is to provide a permanent home for all versions of your project'), never a number. Disk was moved to Ceph/NFS precisely to remove the old ceiling (savannah-hackers-public, 2019-04: 'This increases the disk space and moves onto the new cephs storage').
Evidence rung	reported One page read moves it to documented.
Checked	2026-10-21 (inherited); stale on 2026-11-04

Evidence (6)

date	source	what it proved
2026-10-21	savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/DownloadArea/	(and the nongnu mirror) - `scp foo.tar.gz ... [address removed]:/releases/GROUP_NAME/`; 'As of 2025-01, SFTP is disabled on Savannah. Please add the -O option'; 'Savannah doesn't enforce using GPG signatures'
2026-10-21	lists.defectivebydesign.org/archive/html/savannah-announce/2	'[download] SFTP disabled ... completely disabling SFTP. This affects uploading files to the download host'
2026-10-21	web.archive.org/web/20251221133733/https://savannah.gnu.org/	'Our intent is to provide a permanent home for all versions of your project'; hosting restricted to free-software purpose; project evaluation by Savannah hackers
2026-10-21	savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/HowToBecomeASavannahHacker/	'Evaluate and approve non-gnu packages submitted for hosting'
2026-10-21	download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/lzip/lzip-1.24.tar.gz	probe: GET -> 302 to https://fosszone.csd.auth.gr/nongnu/lzip/lzip-1.24.tar.gz -> 200, Content-Length 123850
2026-10-21	lists.libreplanet.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2	backend moved to nfs1/ceph: 'This increases the disk space'

Unknown or withheld values (6)

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gnu ftp / ftp.gnu.org (mirroring side) Storage

fails: quotaemail?card?R

www.gnu.org/server/mirror.html · rejected-provider · storage/gnu-ftp-ftp-gnu-org · JSON · compare

Free tier	Not a place to put data - ftp.gnu.org is the canonical GNU release server, and mirroring it is a 169 GB inbound commitment in the wrong direction. The upload registration path exists only fo unit none; metered on none
Price	none stated
Per-object cap	not recorded
Retention	not recorded
Egress	not recorded
Identity	email (placeholder) not published
Binding	none no constraint of a named kind was recorded; the verdict rests on the quota sentence rather than on a named limit
Interface	unknown
Tooling	not recorded
Composes with	not recorded
Reliability	Not a place to put data - ftp.gnu.org is the canonical GNU release server, and mirroring it is a 169 GB inbound commitment in the wrong direction. The upload registration path exists only fo
Notes	Not a place to put data - ftp.gnu.org is the canonical GNU release server, and mirroring it is a 169 GB inbound commitment in the wrong direction. The upload registration path exists only fo
Evidence rung	reported
Checked	2026-10-21 (inherited); stale on 2026-11-04

Evidence (2)

date	source	what it proved
2026-10-21	www.gnu.org/server/mirror.html	Not a place to put data - ftp.gnu.org is the canonical GNU release server, and mirroring it is a 169 GB inbound commitment in the wrong direction. The upload registration path exists only fo
2026-10-21	www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Automated-FTP-Uploads.ht	cited as the basis of the rejection: Not a place to put data - ftp.gnu.org is the canonical GNU release server, and mirroring it is a 169 GB inbound commitment in the wrong direction. The upload registration path exists only fo

More fields (1)

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